More about the Miles family – basket makers of Shoreditch

A couple of things really strike me about my Miles ancestors which makes them different from most of my other family lines. This  probably explains why I haven’t bothered to research them very much up to now: so much of the initial  information was easy to find even before the censuses and other records appeared online. Firstly, they’re at the same address at the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses; we can see the family  growing throughout the 1850s and 1860s and then dwindling as the children marry and move away.  The other notable thing is how consistent they are with their ages : in 1841 the ages are given exactly, not rounded up or down, and everyone gains 10 years between censuses unlike some of my other ancestors who seem to gain or lose a few years depending on their mood on census day!

To date I haven’t been able to find out much about John and Elizabeth, who were 29 and 23 respectively in 1841.  Their marriage certificate gives their fathers’ names as Richard Miles , a basket maker (deceased) and Joseph Ram, a labourer.

John’s birthplace is still unknown: in 1851 it’s given as “St George’s, Surrey”, then in 1861 it’s Shoreditch and in 1871 it was stated as “Southwark, Surrey”.  I’m inclined to think that he was born in Southwark (which was then in Surrey) rather than in Shoreditch, but so far I haven’t been able to find a possible birth.

Having trawled the records for a number of years, the most likely record I can find for Elizabeth’s birth is that she   was born on 4th October 1818 and baptised at St Leonard’s,  Shoreditch on 9th November 1818. Her parents are given as Joseph and Mary Ann Ramm of Basing House Court, and Joseph’s occupation is “dustman”.

31281_A101307-00149The spelling of the surname is different but I wonder whether they would have made  a distinction between “Ram” and “Ramm”. Something to explore next!



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I'm enjoying early retirement! I have been researching my ancestry for several years and am interested in all aspects of family history especially local and social history.
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